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Report on Visit by Mr Donald Steel on May 15

At the meeting of The Glamorganshire Golf Club Greens Committee, held on April 16, after a full discussion it was agreed to recommend that the following two motions be placed before members at an EGM in October (now postponed to January):-

  1. Seek agreement to change the 10th hole from a par 3 to a par 4 at an estimated cost of £30,000 plus a further £3,000 for architect’s drawings.
  2. Adopt the remainder of the Architect’s report ( with the exception of extending the 4th tee) providing a schedule of works to be completed either in house or by contract over a 5 year period. Present estimates are £64,000.

Agreed that a Newsletter should be sent to all voting members with the EGM notice, outlining the proposals and detailing the works to be completed each year over the 5 year period.

At the meeting held in October 2008 members had been unanimously in favour of removing the leylandaii trees.

The committee was of the view that many members would not support changing the 10th to a par 4 especially at a time when funds are short.

Agreed that not all members would be in favour of every recommendation in the report, but the aim is to provide a better golf course for all standard of golfers to enjoy. It was agreed that the report should be voted upon in its entirety, not allowing individual members to nit pick and remove items that they are not personally in favour of.

The Committee would like Members to make known their views on this Report. You can download the full text of the Report below. You can make any comments below at the foot of this page (after the Report) or, if you prefer, by email to manager@glamorganshiregolf.co.uk.

It would be appreciated if you could leave your name with your comment.

In his report, Donald Steel comments that Page 29 of the Club’s Centenary History shows the picture in 1930 of an ‘almost uncountable number of bunkers’ and little else. The only trees visible are contained in Downs Wood and the boundary hedgerows.

When the golf course was redesigned for the fourth or fifth time in 1933 by renowned course architect, Mr T Simpson, he had most of the bunkers removed, but his recommendation to plant new trees continued unabated for almost the next 50 years, leaving a lasting legacy.

It 1987, the committee engaged the services of Cotton, Pennink, Steel and Partners Limited to assess the danger created by stray golf shots on the 13th hole ( Castle Avenue Estate had been built by this time) and make any necessary recommendations for changes to the layout to alleviate the problem. They proposed drastic action:-

1) Abandon the 13th and purchase land behind the 9th green and left of the 11th fairway.

2) From this land, outside the existing boundary, create a new par 4 up to the existing 10th green.

3) Shorten the 11th hole to a par 4 with a new green down the left hand side of the present fairway.

4) Create a new par 3 from the far left corner of the purchased land to the existing 11th green.

Obviously, this did not happen, but it’s the first time we see a recommendation to turn the 10th into a par 4.

They also proposed changes to many other holes, very similar to those in the 2008 report by Donald Steel e.g:-

4th hole – remove cross bunkers and add two bunkers 30/40 yards short left of the green, extending the fairway on the right. The 2008 report adds that some trees to the left of the 4th fairway should be removed to give a much better sight of the green, adding new fairway bunkers at 240, 260 and 285 yards to catch the better players.

6th hole – The present right hand bunker is very dull says the 1987 report. It also advocated opening up the stream so that it had greater depth and was therefore more visible. The 2008 report agrees.

Only a few of the 1987 recommendations were carried out, mainly due to lack of funds, but over the next 10 years many new tees and bunkers were created, mostly using in-house labour.

A golf course should never stand still, and with the advent of new technology many of its present features have become obsolete. In short, it recommends the creation of new tees, the removal or repositioning of bunkers and the removal of most of the leylandii.

THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK— will be completed in-house, including hiring machinery as necessary. The total cost could be contained within a budget of £90,000 at today’s prices.

It’s a great deal of money, which we don’t have at present. To borrow at this time is not advisable nor is the option of asking members for an additional levy when subscriptions are going up by inflation + 1%. However, if planned over say a five or six year period, the changes are achievable. In conclusion Donald Steel confirms that there is nothing life threatening, fundamental or revolutionary in the assessment, but if treatment is proposed, the sooner it is starts the better.

THE CHOICE IS YOURS. Do we stand still or continue to improve the course and make it enjoyable for golfers of all standards?

Here is an example of how the work could be carried out over 6 years using funds generated from general reserves:-

YEAR 1—1st and 6th holes - build two new tees, remove/reposition bunkers, tree clearing and widen ditch – £12,000

YEAR 2—2nd ,4th and 5th holes –enlarge/new tees, clear trees, and remove/reposition bunkers - £11,500

YEAR 3—13th and 16th holes - new tees, remove bushes, move fairway bunker - £13,000

YEAR 4—3rd, 9th and 17th holes – enlarge/new tees, move bunker on 9th further down fairway and reduce height and move front bunker on 17 - £10,000

YEAR 5—14th and 15th holes – reduce height of greenside bunkers and raise front of 15th green - £7250

YEAR 6—10th and 11th holes - create new tee/new green on 10th, remove trees on fairway, new tee on 11th, lower existing 16th tee for use as red/yellow tee for new 11th hole, fill in cross bunkers at 200 yards, move fairway bunkers - £32,000

Leylandii removal would start on Day 1, the cost of which is included in the above.

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Simon Curle 06/10/2008 17:26:16
100% in favour
Admin 28/10/2008 10:41:51
Hi Simom - thanks for your Comment, and apologiesfor the delay in publishing it - we only just got this feature working properly! Nev Nicholson
Desmond Deaney 10/12/2008 18:20:25
A very good report. Removing the leylandii will certainly create a more ecologically friendly course. Their removal will enable the course to "breathe" better,especially around the greens.There are two groups right and left before the 17th.green. On the left, their removal will give more space and light to the well-established native cherry trees, a nice feature lost at present. If any replacement planting is required, try to ensure that indiginous trees and bushes are used.
Arwyn Williams 03/01/2010 18:07:41
Rather than alter the 10th, which is a very good par 3 situated between two par 5's, why not consider building a new raised green at the 13th, bringing it 50 yards forward of the existing green and play it off the back tee. The 14th could then be altered to a par 4 by moving the existing tee back 90 yards. This would break up back to back par 3's. In wet weather, the 13th is one of the first holes out of play due to flooding. Raising it would solve this problem with better drainage and make it a more difficult hole than it is at present. Additionally, the trees separating the course from Castle Avenue are now sufficiently dense to prevent tee shots from the 14th entering gardens.
 
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